michael jackson oprah interview transcript
And then he would dance, you know. You think about what the it factor is, that's what he had. While never forgetting any of the sexual details that happened between us, but having no understanding that it was abusehaving no concept in my mind that anything about Michael could ever badeverything that Michael did was right to me for so many years." SMITH: He backed out of the auction. It's happening in familieswe know it's happening in churches, and in schools, and sports teams everywhere. He filled the property with an amusement park, a private zoo, and dubbed the oasis Neverland. JOANN SAMS, SECRETARY, ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL: Oh, it was just unbelievable, because they were so young, but yet they were so talented. to Oprah" interview. KENNY ORTEGA, CHOREOGRAPHER: He was so excited about this project, and so invested. Thus, the most uncomfortable question was forgiven. And Oprah posed a lot of difficult questions. In the Michael Jackson interview, this is quite noticeable: she describes the artists disturbing environment with a naivet that makes Michael himself not feel attacked. GORDY: Suzanne de Passe insisted I meet with these kids and audition them. I suspect so. And we were sitting very close and he actually collapsed on my shoulder. Our editors handpick the products that we feature. BROCKMAN: We were alone in a room. Have you ever been in love? Oprah pressed on. He was the seventh of nine children. To understand the enormous buzz that an interview with Michael Jackson (Indiana, 1958-Los Angeles, 2009) generated in February 1993, one needs to understand the context. They don't sound dated. It just didn't seem possible. His cheeks were sunken in. JACKSON: My friends and doctors advise me to seek professional guidance in order to eliminate what has become an addiction. I warned them. LEMON (voice-over): It was June 13, 2005. Six months and 14 days later, in the summer of 1993, the first accusations of sexual abuse were made public, and his image was tarnished forever. Long-awaited, the buzz was big. The interview would be Jackson's last. Tonight at 10:00 p.m. Eastern, we'll talk to a member of Amnesty International about what is going on in Iran and how bad it has gotten. They think Dr. Murray can answer lingering questions about Michael Jackson's death. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fifty, OK. There were dozens of lawyers and bodyguards and assistants. He's trying to not affect the legal proceedings in any way. And he thinks he's being loving. Curiously, there was no mention of her personal connection to Jackson in particular, the famous 1993 live interview with him at Neverland Ranch, which took place just months before the first . He wasn't making new records. Michael had turned down interviews for 14 years, until allowing Oprah access to Neverland. And with that historic piece of vinyl, a phenomenon was born. He was sobbing. Again, the 911 tape. Despite the success of "We are the World" in the mid '80s, seemingly soft-spoken Michael was retreating into a world all his own. Were you as happy offstage as you were onstage?, Offstage I was very sad. LEMON: R&B superstar Usher. OPRAH WINFREY, TALK SHOW HOST: So he would tease you, make fun of you? More "CNN Presents: The Man in The Mirror" in just a moment. The live interview, which took place before any abuse allegations were made against him, covered . But this time, Jackson's stage was the roof of an SUV, outside the Santa Barbara County courthouse. He said he urged the singer to keep children out of his bedroom. Time said, Part soap opera, part show, the Michael Jackson interview was vivid, reckless and emotionally naked. Life opined that Oprah delivered as promised and accomplished something nearly impossible: bringing Peter Pan down from the clouds.. In 1993, Oprah Winfrey made history by conducting the most-watched interview in television history. He suffered from bad acne and was self- conscious of his appearance. You look like you're insane. On the day after his death, Presley wrote on her blog that Jackson always thought he'd die early like her father. In a new interview, Oprah discussed and reiterated her support for HBO's documentary series Leaving Neverland, which explores two allegations of child sexual abuse against Michael Jackson.The series saw two men, Wade Robson and James Safechuck, accusing Jackson of sexually abusing them as children, and immediately sparked intense backlash online from fans of Jackson and from the Jackson estate. You look like a monkey. Jackson was granted full custody of the children. It was an exclusive talk with Michael Jackson who had refused to be interviewed for 14 years. LEMON: Brian Monroe sat down with Michael Jackson in September 2007 for "Ebony Magazine." Brooke. Then he added, Ive always been in love with Diana Ross. Oprah asked if he would propose to Elizabeth Taylor. ORTEGA: It was awesome to watch him. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) LEMON: By the early 1990s, Michael Jackson's new music, even fresh R&B hits like "Remember the Time," couldn't come close to the phenomenon he had created with "Thriller." LEMON: Michael Jackson, dead at the age of 50. This is a UK airing of the famous interview of Michael Jackson by Oprah Winfrey in 1993. Watch full episodes and live stream OWN whenever and wherever you want. I said that Michael is over-medicating and that I did not want to see this kind of a case develop. KING: Yes, but -- JERMAINE JACKSON: His whole thing is, if there's something that you feel that you want to change, and then you do that. In 2005, Michael Jackson would go to trial and face perhaps the toughest six months of his life. You are seeing through to the blue veins, and they're very, very apparent. Thats why Im always surrounded by children now., After addressing how Michael felt going from an adorable child prodigy to a teenager, Winfrey laid the groundwork to address the singers controversial physical appearance; by then, the grown man had a pale complexion, a narrow, pointed nose, a Kirk Douglas-like dimple in his chin and he wore copious white makeup on his face. Semipresencial en Madrid, Espaa, Maestra en 'Data Management' e Innovacin Tecnolgica 100% en lnea. He had the discipline at such a young age, originality, willing to try everything, a work ethic, all of it. to Oprah is an American television interview special that was broadcast by ABC on February 10, 1993. GORDY: They were sensations. I had go-to lines about being able to separate the art from the man; about how Jackson was certainly an oddball with an affinity for children because of his own troubled upbringing, but that didn't make him a criminal; about how there was never any real proof that he had abused children. And in particular, in the Anna Nicole case, I said, if that's what's going to happen to Michael, it's all going to break our hearts. LEMON: In a BBC interview, Joe Jackson admitted whipping Michael with a switch or a belt, but denied ever beating him. Have you ever had suicidal tendencies? Whats a 36-year-old man doing sleeping with a 12-year-old boy? Have you ever had sexual intercourse with a child? The rest of the story is familiar: Bashirs 2003 interview, in which Jackson again claimed to share his bed with children, prompted an investigation and then a trial for the sexual abuse of a young boy who appeared with him on the show (Jackson was found not guilty). Diane: Glad you're here. A year later, the couple had a baby daughter, Paris Michael Katherine. Someone created a piano. I was never able to enjoy the simplest things that a child takes for granted in his life. LEMON: Bahrain and back again. LEMON: Saying "Beat It" to the competition, for 37 weeks the album sat at number one and is, to this day, the top-selling album in the world. Eight minutes into the show, Oprah posed the question that would allow her to get to the meatier questions. At the end, he talked about his mortality. Robson told Oprah of his decision to speak out: "If anything that I say is going to help any other survivors, then I should be able to speak the truth.". 90 million people tuned in for the sit-down chat at the King of Pop's Neverland Valley Ranch in Los Olivos, California. Michael told Oprah that he was in a relationship with Brooke Shields. LEMON: -- so is his death. It was the last time the public viewed the artist not mired in disturbing allegations. Meantime, members of Iran's government-linked militia are reportedly raiding homes and beating suspected protesters, who are believed to be taking part in nightly anti-government chants from Tehran roofs. That's a lot of dates. ", If there's one dance move for which Michael will forever be remembered, it's unquestionably the moonwalk. Music would not be what it is without Michael Jackson. This is the first time I really had an opportunity to be completely alone with him. In fact, in the documentary, Safechuck reveals that he only finally came to terms with his own abuseand opened up to his wife about itafter seeing an interview Robson did about his experience with Jackson on The Today Show in 2013. But his face was expressionless. After nearly a decade of being suspected of child molestation, the King of Pop was about to face the music. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) LEMON: In November 1982, 24-year-old Michael Jackson released "Thriller." Who do you date? Right now, Brooke Shields. Oprah nodded and murmured Hmm. She comes to my house, or I go to hers, Michael continued. RABBI SCHMULEY BOTEACH: On the one hand, he would always complain. Video of Michael Jackson showcasing his beatboxing and singing talent in an impromptu performance from 1993 confirms what we've known all along: MJ was a natural born entertainer. LEMON: Rowe gave birth to their son, Prince Michael Jackson, in 1997. But some wondered whether he could pull off a strenuous 50- concert tour. If you look closely, in the sequence where they walk together to the amusement park all the rides are moving, but theyre completely empty, he says. Im going to ask you something and its embarrassing for me, but Im going to ask it anyway. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is something which I feared, and it is something which I warned about. This is really it. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says Iran's response to U.S. criticism of its presidential election will be crushing and remorseful. BROCKMAN: I recognized that, you know, this is Michael Jackson. She offered to have a child for him. They were tremendous. LEMON: That documentary triggered bombshell news that thrust the fated pop star back into the spotlight. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think he spent a lot of internal time reflecting on who he was, where he'd been. Oprahs interview succeeded in reducing Jacksons image from lunatic to simply eccentric, wrote The Washington Post shortly thereafter. LEMON: By 1985, the pop star began looking different. I can't even begin to summarize here everything that happens in those four hours, but if there is one message I can share: It is a must-watchespecially if you are a Michael Jackson fan. He was horribly burned. Coincidentally, fans were wondering about Michael's much lighter skin tone, from black to white. Sign up for the oprah.com live your best life newsletter, Get more stories like this delivered to your inbox. Disfrute de nuestras lecciones personalizadas, breves y divertidas. MICHAEL JACKSON: I would do my schooling for three hours with the tutor, and right after that I'd go to the recording studio and record. Every time a shot opens, we see behind him a huge, lonely room filled with expensive works of art. LEMON: Pain that dated back at least a quarter of a century. These are victims whose lives were forever ruined by a troubled, sick person who had the access and power to manipulate them for decades, even after his deathbecause he was larger than life. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There will be charges filed against Mr. Jackson, multiple counts. We may earn commission from the links on this page. Not that the trial was going to end badly, but that something would happen to Michael. (Video: HBO) Comment on this story BRIAN MONROE, "EBONY MAGAZINE": I was really struck by the razor stubble, all along his face. I tried to enhance the quality of. Yes. With Brooke Shields? Yes. Ellen: Oh, thank you. And Michael was happy to play along with that, because he understood at a very early age that image-making and public relations was very important. I was previously the Digital Director of OprahMag.com, and before that, Senior Features Writer at Refinery29, where I also served as a video host and on-camera entertainment expert. QUINCY JONES, MUSIC PRODUCER: I said, you know what? Its a magnetic, phantasmagoric ending. RODNEY JENKINS, MUSIC PRODUCER: He created things that we've never seen before, visually, in music. LEMON: It was March 10, 2005, the second day of testimony by Jackson's teenaged accuser. Some say the Jackson's turned to music the day their television set broke down, but from the day they started performing, they were destined for stardom. Michael went from reacting to Oprahs questions with some trepidation to carrying most of the conversation. To no -- he's not responding to CPR or anything. LEMON: Family members came to Jackson's defense. He is later joined by his sister and guest star, LaToya Jackson (1983/1984): . Every day, Michael Jackson showed up in one of his Captain Crunch outfits. It is bigger than Michael Jackson's fans, bigger than me defending the soundtrack to my childhood. LEMON: In July, 1984, the Jackson 5 reunited in a flurry of publicity. Sometimes he would come to see me, and I would throw up. As an adult too? Yes., Then Oprah started to fire away. WINFREY: Would he -- did he ever beat you? LEMON: Author and self-proclaimed psychic Uri Geller was a friend of Jackson's. I'm going to miss him so much. In that sense, the show [was] very ambiguous. Despite the interview being filmed in his own home, one of the rooms served as a set. "Forgiveness is not a line that you crossit's a road that you take.". But that becomes problematic when sometimes, that means we turn a blind eye to their mistakes, or, in this case (and the cases of other public figures like Kelly, O.J. The interview shattered records with an audience of 90 million. In fact, you know, there were nights where you looked up there and it was like he was timeless, ageless. He said, no one wants to be mortal; we all want to be immortal. And it's happening right now. Several items were taken away. On February 10, 1993, Oprah sat down with Michael Jackson for what would be the most-watched interview in television history. Just last year, a study by the Census Bureau and Stanford University found that no matter what their parents income level, Black men are less successful than white men on average. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. You can count them on two fingers. It doesnt take a surgeon to know that Michael was lying; he maintained that falsehood in 2003, in his interview with Martin Bashir, when he responded sardonically to the same question: Ive had two operationsthat I can remember., But Oprah pressed the point, Youve had a nose job, thats obvious. Yes, like a lot of people I know, Michael responded But Ive never had my cheeks, eyes or lips done. Do you like the way you look now? Oprah probed further. With all of the pieces and details put together chronologically across four hours, Leaving Neverland brings to life a man who groomed his victims psychologically into simultaneously loving him and fearing him so steadfastly that they never accepted that they were abused themselvesmuch less wanted to tell anyone about it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, but he's not responding to anything. TOOBIN: He was emaciated. And we started going, we started to get going. Why? In this never-before-heard interview from 2012, Emmy and Tony-award-winning actress, Cicely Tyson explains the surprising story of how she found her calling, shares behind-the-scenes history of her most iconic roles and reveals the biggest life lessons she's learned. You may be able to find the same content in another format, or you may be able to find more information, at their web site. Watching the two interviews back to back reveals an undeniable and astonishing fact: the biggest pop star the world had ever seen had become a completely different person in the intervening 14 years. WINFREY: And why would he beat you? And to be completely honest, I also had a little bit of that "let's not bring the Black man down" in my own mentality. ), I shared the same mindset of many of the folks Oprah was talking about. So for me, it's time to say goodbye to Michael Jacksonone last time. And it was just kind of disgusting and silly. And is aid to him, take that stupid thing off! The interview had the intended effect (many considered it a promotional ploy by the two, rather than a real interview). Are you a virgin? Michael sighed, laughed and replied, How could you ask me that question? Ultimately, he sidestepped a direct answer with an odd response. His next saying on the I won't grow up, I'm a lost boy, I'm Peter Pan. The pop star's eccentric behavior hardly deterred the album's record-breaking five number ones. And they were expected to meet with L.A. police today. It just made me very, very, very sad. LEMON: As his life was controversial -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He raised the bar for image makeovers to a point where no one else wants to even come close to it. I knew it wouldn't look right. LEMON: Jackson needed to put distance between him and the taint of Neverland. Oh, there's a lot of is sadness about my past life and, you know, adolescence, and my father, and all of those things. And it also broke barriers. And Michael just stared at me. Leaving Neverland and Oprah's interview helped me come to terms with the fact that by continuing to defend Michael Jackson in the name of his talent, I was contributing to our society's habit of victim shaming. (And who could ever forget that interview Jackson did with Martin Bashir in 2003 where he whispered "I am Peter Pan"? In 1993, Jackson spoke about both in this interview with Oprah Winfrey. Plastic surgery was another much-talked about issue surrounding Michael Jackson in the early 1990s. Jackson fans have also been vicious, as Winfrey also received backlash before the interview. He was very placid. How many plastic surgery procedures have you undergone? Very, very few, Michael replied. It was the kind of attention and screams he was accustomed to. Jackson, he said, once asked him for a prescription. LEMON: The shadow of drug abuse would follow him even into death. And we started -- this is where we started. CRAIG MARKS, FORMER EDITOR, "BLENDER" MAGAZINE: Hysterical adulation does play tricks with your mind. An Objective View of Michael Jackson Interview Transcripts Michael Jackson, Lisa Marie Presley interview with Diane Sawyer Transcript 22nd January 1995 Diane Sawyer: And with me of course, Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley. . On February 10, 1993, Oprah sat down with Michael Jackson for what would be the most-watched interview in television history. Before Oprah's interview with Robson, 36, and Safechuck, 40, HBO screened all four hours of Leaving Neverland. Just nine months after the show aired, the 13-year-old cancer patient featured in the documentary accused Jackson of sexual abuse. Interviews. And immediately I was up all night trying to think of the type of songs that would create excitement among people. And we were so excited. I think he was responding to his fans by, at least showing them his face. That is when everything clicked for mewhen I had what Oprah likes to call an "aha moment." And a 14 week trial in 2005 found Jackson not guilty of charges that he had molested another 13-year-old boy, Gavin Arvizo. I mean, everybody wants immortality. There's a lot of mysterious phases of Michael Jackson's career, but the last three are particularly mysterious. I'd like to take a shot at producing your record. Here the Jackson 5 won the talent contest and wowed the crowd. WINFREY: He did? Jackson had never responded to anything, except through his songs. LEMON (on camera): If someone asked you to sing a tribute to Michael Jackson at a service or whatever, what do you think he'd sing? #MichaelJackson #OprahWinfrey #MichaelJacksonInterviewThis is the Making of "Michael Jackson Talks . And that was my sentiment walking into Oprah Winfrey Presents: After Neverlanda conversation with Robson, Safechuck, and Leaving Neverland director Dan Reedwhich was taped in New York City before a live audience of sexual abuse survivors. My father didn't love me enough. (I should note that for the record, Leaving Neverland was in production long before Surviving R. Kelly aired.). He wasn't touring. You could not on your own going bearing in mind book buildup or library or . We're going to sleep. Sometimes I do get angry. So if it gets you, our audience, to see how it happens, then some good would have come of it.". My father was too strict, he was too much of a disciplinarian. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the greatest moment that disco has in its entire history. MESEREAU: I just looked at him and hugged him and he just said, thank you, thank you. She explained: "Here's the reason why I'm here. Meantime, the Reverend Jesse Jackson tells CNN the Jackson family wants answers. Later, he added: "Michael told me it was love, that God brought us together. I guess what none of us could have anticipated was the album they would then produce after "Off the Wall." LEMON: When we return, Michael on-stage the night before he died. Tickets sold out within hours. And no one wanted it more than Michael. The weight, the gravity, the way he would sing. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, we have a personal doctor here with him, sir. GORDY: When she told me about another kids' group I said, wait a minute, I got all these other stars. He made me rehearse too much. There wouldn't even be the MTV that is now without Michael Jackson's influence. It remains to be seen how the recently announced film about Michael Jacksons life (which will star his nephew Jaafar and will be directed by Antoine Fuqua) will reflect this transformation. So when I heard about the new two-night HBO documentary Leaving Neverlandand the fact that Oprah was going to be interviewing Wade Robson and James Safechuck, the two men in the film who accuse Jackson of sexually abusing them as childrenI had a similar reaction to the rest of the world: Disbelief. Disfruta con nuestros Crucigramas para expertos! BOTEACH: He puts on that black thing, that mask. Then two years later, I was like, I was wrong. Get more inspiration like this delivered to your inbox, How well do you know the King of Pop? LEMON: All silent at age 50. Resuelve los ltimos Crucigramas de Mambrino, Juega a nuestros Sudoku para Expertos y mejora da a da tu nivel, Juega a las nuevas Sopas de letras clsicas y temticas de EL PAS. But in this case, there is no separating the artist from the man. And let's not forget that this wasn't just any man who was playing psychological tricks on pre-pubescent mindsthis was a global superstar, perhaps the most well-known name on the entire planet. LEMON: Millions in mourning. Michael Jackson, left, will be played in the film by his nephew Jaafar Jackson, right. They talked about James Brown, Jackie Wilson, the Bee Gees and Motown. Michael Jackson and Oprah Winfrey during the high-profile interview at Neverland Ranch on February 10, 1993; according to some estimates, the broadcast drew nearly 100 million viewers worldwide. LEMON: It was a triumph for Jackson as a musician and as a humanitarian. Nuevo curso 'online', Maestra en Ciencias Ambientales presencial en Benito Jurez, Licenciatura en Administracin de Empresas presencial en Benito Jurez, Maestra a distancia en Lingstica Aplicada a la Enseanza del Espaol como Lengua Extranjera, Licenciatura Ejecutiva en Psicologa Semipresencial. And I said, Mr. Gordy, you just have to see these kids. Oprah Winfrey interviews Michael Jackson's accusers from "Leaving Neverland." By Meredith Blake Staff Writer March 1, 2019 6 AM PT Reporting from New York Oprah Winfrey is arguably the. SUZANNE DE PASSE, CEO, DE PASSE ENTERTAINMENT: He had the charisma, the talent, the voice, the -- everything it takes. TOURE: Every few months you would see him, and you'd go, whoa, you're looking weird, dude. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, he's not breathing, sir. Beginning at a place called Motown------ The Michael Jackson Interview: Oprah Reflects On February 10, 1993, Oprah sat down with Michael Jackson for what would be the most-watched interview in television history. In February, he received the Living Legend Award at the Grammys, an honor bestowed intermittently on the likes of Frank Sinatra and Aretha Franklin, which Jackson received at the age of 34. And, as unconventional as it is, if you really look at it, it's sort of surrogate motherhood. LIONEL RICHIE, MUSICIAN: That soul was huge. He was greeted by a crush of reporters and fans. According to Kitty Kelleys biography Oprah, the host lied when she claimed at the beginning of the interview that nothing had been prearranged. When Oprah broached the subject, Michael wouldn't get into specifics but said he'd had less plastic surgery than people thought. And my worst fears are here. Rank Interviewee Interviewer Avg. Oprah : Michael Jackson is the seventh of nine brothers and sisters born in Gary, Indiana to steel mill worker Joseph and mother Katherine. LEMON: Motown gave the group a record deal. PETER CASTRO, ASSISTANT MANAGING EDITOR, "PEOPLE" MAGAZINE: He's on the set, and he's descending a staircase. TOURE: When he dangled the baby, it's just here's Michael again being the class clown who doesn't even realize that he's the class clown. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. Who wants mortality? And another girl. The next question that followed was the most striking of the entire encounter, because it was asked of a 35-year-old man who had just claimed that he dated and had been in love. LEMON: The transformation was complete. Simpson, and Bill Cosby) crimes. LEMON: De Passe was just starting out at Motown, working with founder Berry Gordy. BEN BROCKMAN, ATTORNEY FOR MICHAEL JACKSON: I was trying my best to get him down. During the interview, Oprah got a private lesson in the signature move. Tern notes that he believes that Michael thought the interview would clean up his image, but instead it showed the grandiloquence of his fame, of having no childhood, which knocks a person off kilter forever..
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